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PostSubject: Duke Players Granted Year of Eligibility   Duke Players Granted Year of Eligibility EmptyWed May 30, 2007 3:25 pm

Right choice by the NCAA in my opinion. Everyone who says it's unfair to the competition doesn't realize how unfair it was to take away that season where they very easily could have won the title. What do you guys think?
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PostSubject: Re: Duke Players Granted Year of Eligibility   Duke Players Granted Year of Eligibility EmptyWed May 30, 2007 3:53 pm

Great news imo, Duke lacrosse is awesome. cheers But honestly, I don't think anyone thought they'd actually get that eligibility back, even John Danowski was quoted saying he doesn't think they'll get it, but why not try anyways. And obviously the latter part payed off. I wonder if this means we'll see Matt and a few others back?

I do feel bad though for their competition, it seems slightly unfair, but then again Duke is the one who had the shaft.
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i think thats the least they could do after going through that whole ordeal
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i realy hope danowski comes back... i'd love to see him in person 2 years in a row right warrior Wink
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i just have to say that the NCAA didnt cancel the season, but im still glad to see them getting that year of eligability back. as much as i don't like duke, they have an awesome team.
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During both of Duke's games it was pretty intense with Danowski and his couple picks and then his 1v1 domination over Schwartzman, who I dislike.
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PostSubject: Re: Duke Players Granted Year of Eligibility   Duke Players Granted Year of Eligibility EmptyWed May 30, 2007 7:58 pm

I am also happy to hear this. Good job by the NCAA on making the right move. Having Greer and Danowski back on the field makes good odds for Duke to put up a great fight.
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PostSubject: Re: Duke Players Granted Year of Eligibility   Duke Players Granted Year of Eligibility EmptyWed May 30, 2007 9:11 pm

I'm glad they're doin this. the Duke players deserve it. imagine how devasting the danowski greer combo will be if danowski comes back
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wait, they're giving everyone one more year and the NCAA is cool with that?
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the ncaa granted the year to the players.
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saweet. sunny
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wow, i'm part surprised, part shocked and part happy for the players. It'll be interesting to see who will take advantage of this opportunity....

Danowski fans shouldnt get too excited--they must have said he's starting on wall street 2 dozen times during the tournament weekend.
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I'm still hoping he'll somehow play and go onto grad school? Crying or Very sad
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Warriorlax23 wrote:
I'm still hoping he'll somehow play and go onto grad school? Crying or Very sad

I think everyone hopes for that
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The NCAA's decision to grant an extra year of eligibility to Duke laxers was, in my opinion, a mistake.

Let it be known that I am personally happy for the Duke players who received the extra year...BUT...the NCAA has given Duke an incredible advantage in the future.

A 5th year for an entire class for the next three years is huge -- more mature, more developed, stronger, faster, older, wiser players, etc. Huge advantage when applied to an entire class, and not to one or two injured athletes given a waiver.

In addition, this waiver for the current sophomore, junior and senior classes also gives Duke 5 recruiting classes for the next three years vs. just four recruiting clases for every other school. Let's face it, while all players can transfer, most won't transfer. They will design their course work to graduate in 5 years or attend graduate school at Duke. The NCAA gave Duke a huge competitive advantage by granting Duke 5 full recuititng classes from which to field its team for the next three years.

This decision was not thought through. This decision reflects the same rush to judgment mentality that caused Duke to screw up in the first place. These young men sufferred and suffered greatly because of what Duke did and what its professors did, and they deserve compensation from Duke, but not from the NCAA and not in the form of a competitive advantage.

Keep in mind, it was DUKE...NOT THE NCAA who cancelled the season and "fired" Pressler. The NCAA was incorrect to grant the team extra eligibility. This is precisely what Coach Danowski had in mind when he said it was unlikely for the NCAA to grant extra eligibility.
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So violent Mike.
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DwinsChamps wrote:
The NCAA's decision to grant an extra year of eligibility to Duke laxers was, in my opinion, a mistake.

Let it be known that I am personally happy for the Duke players who received the extra year...BUT...the NCAA has given Duke an incredible advantage in the future.

A 5th year for an entire class for the next three years is huge -- more mature, more developed, stronger, faster, older, wiser players, etc. Huge advantage when applied to an entire class, and not to one or two injured athletes given a waiver.

In addition, this waiver for the current sophomore, junior and senior classes also gives Duke 5 recruiting classes for the next three years vs. just four recruiting clases for every other school. Let's face it, while all players can transfer, most won't transfer. They will design their course work to graduate in 5 years or attend graduate school at Duke. The NCAA gave Duke a huge competitive advantage by granting Duke 5 full recuititng classes from which to field its team for the next three years.

This decision was not thought through. This decision reflects the same rush to judgment mentality that caused Duke to screw up in the first place. These young men sufferred and suffered greatly because of what Duke did and what its professors did, and they deserve compensation from Duke, but not from the NCAA and not in the form of a competitive advantage.

Keep in mind, it was DUKE...NOT THE NCAA who cancelled the season and "fired" Pressler. The NCAA was incorrect to grant the team extra eligibility. This is precisely what Coach Danowski had in mind when he said it was unlikely for the NCAA to grant extra eligibility.

You have to consider that according to this article http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=25937&SPID=2027&DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=919500 "The NCAA said it considered several factors, including unanimous support from the presidents of the Atlantic Coast Conference universities, according to a news release."
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Dwins, I agree with everything you said. While I can agree that what Duke went through last year was a great injustice, I can not believe this decision. They played around 50% of their season, while they missed out on the opportunity to play for a championship it was Duke University's fault not that of the NCAA. The NCAA is cleaning up for Duke's mistake. Sure it was supported by the ACC presidents, but can you imagine the PR issues for that school if one of the presidents of Maryland/UVA/UNC would not support this. Finally, regarding this decision being rushed, with the MLL draft today they had to resolve the issue before Duke's seniors registered for the draft making them ineligible for future NCAA competition and thus the NCAA's ruling on this matter a moot point. Like you said, rushed decisions are not a good thing.
This is a great thing for the players, and there is no question they have been through alot; however, my fear is that this will effect the parody in D1 lacrosse for years to come.

P.S. Dwins, I love that Dali painting, I have a print of it in my room.
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As a high ranking official in the ACC conference, I would hope you'd have enough backbone to defend your opinion if you believe it a valid one, whether you think you will have poor PR for a month or two should be irrelavent.
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PostSubject: Re: Duke Players Granted Year of Eligibility   Duke Players Granted Year of Eligibility EmptySat Jun 02, 2007 9:54 am

Well but think of it this way, what if your opinion wasn't what's best for the school, but what was best for a select group of kids. Then no you shouldn't defend your opinion, as a high ranking official as you're suggesting they should be looking out for the best interest of the school first and always. I understand how this will effect lacrosse for the next 4 years, and most specifically Duke's next recruiting class. But for me, the key factor to this, was the fact that all of the ACC schools approved it. If Duke's direct competition is ok with that, then hell I don't see why we or anyone else should complain.
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That's what I'm saying, or I meant to say. Laughing
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Ahh, well it was early when I read it. So then yes I agree with you.
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