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PostSubject: Re: All Conference   Sat May 24, 2008 4:08 am

alex gradecki (marquette) is hands down the best goalie in state, everyone from breabuf, who by the way beat SLUH, said he was a much better goalie than SLUH's goalie (then #6 in the midwest), he has played phenomenal the past two years and he is only a junior, he would be a prime candidate for the all american selection
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PostSubject: Re: All Conference   Sat May 24, 2008 7:49 am

There is no way to decisively say anyone is HANDS DOWN the best in the state.
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PostSubject: Re: All Conference   Sat May 24, 2008 9:11 am

MALA Coaches from each team selected their players from their own rosters for the "All-Conference" list...most coaches, I'm sure, included those players who they thought not only played exceptionally well but also were leaders on and off the field. Coaches were limited to 5 nominees and I think most coaches used all 5 slots. Some, like me, notated players from other teams who they thought merited selection. Additionally, MALA has requested that players selected be "categorized" in 1st, 2nd and HM positions, which will likely be posted later. Lists like these are imperfect at best and personally I think the the truly all-state players will come from selections/observations of games between Team Madison, Milwaukee and Bay-Val...and even that won't be perfect or complete because some kids might not be able to participate for whatever reason.
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PostSubject: Re: All Conference   Sat May 24, 2008 5:33 pm

laxmehard wrote:
alex gradecki (marquette) is hands down the best goalie in state, everyone from breabuf, who by the way beat SLUH, said he was a much better goalie than SLUH's goalie (then #6 in the midwest), he has played phenomenal the past two years and he is only a junior, he would be a prime candidate for the all american selection
Through two games of seeing him I strongly disagree. Just my opinion, but he was par at best versus Middleton and Arrowhead when you played them the first time around.
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PostSubject: Re: All Conference   Sat May 24, 2008 10:42 pm

david hoeft from waunakee is also a very good goalie.

maybe he should be thrown into this goalie conversation.

just throwing that out there.
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PostSubject: Re: All Conference   Sat May 24, 2008 11:17 pm

hoeft is an excellent goalie and an overall fun guy to hang around. Gradecki is one helluva player, but i think that hoeft has an edge over 'decki in that he's a bit more mature.
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PostSubject: Re: All Conference   Sun May 25, 2008 3:17 am

With Wisc AA now... I highly doubt it will go to a goalie with their first year, most likely oging to see a midfielder and an attack.
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PostSubject: Re: All Conference   Mon May 26, 2008 12:52 pm

any word on when they're going to announce 1st team , 2nd team, and HM?
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PostSubject: Re: All Conference   Fri May 30, 2008 10:31 am

Hopefully, we'll have the list published soon. It is important to remember that this year, each team's coach nominated 5 players for AC and then further indicated whether each player is 1st Tm, 2nd Tm or HM. Most coaches were pretty good (and honest) in spreading their picks around first team, second team and HM. Coaches know their players best and this system is built on that principal. Coaches also have the option of "recognizing" players on opposing teams they think merit "Special Recognition". It isn't perfect but it is better than last year and will probably be even better in the future.
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PostSubject: Re: All Conference   Fri May 30, 2008 3:37 pm

MALA 1st, 2nd and HM are up.

First Team
Position Last First # Grade School
Attack Hummel Nick 18 12 Middleton
Attack Brown Jesse 2 12 Verona
Attack Olp Nick 9 12 LaFollette
Attack Patrick Randy 17 11 Sun Prairie
Attack Woock Jared 15 11 Waunakee
Midfielder Wright Nate 5 11 Verona
Midfielder Opsal Tim 21 12 Verona
Midfielder Johnson Steve 31 12 Stoughton
Midfielder Pernot Dan 12 12 Janesville
Defense Helwig Chris 16 12 Verona
Defense Hurd Cody 69 12 Middleton
Defense Puskarich Matt 28 12 LaFollette
Defense Snapper Josh 46 12 Regents
Defense Spink Daunte 23 12 Sauk
Defense Knipfer Richie 69 11 Stoughton
Defense Maki Lance 14 11 Sun Prairie
Goalie Baer Randy 4 12 LaFollette
Goalie Kulinski Eric 6 12 Sun Prairie
Goalie Urumoglu Nick 1 11 Verona

Second Team
Position Last First # Grade School
Attack Bloom Dalton 27 11 Sun Prairie
Attack Bonebrake Kyle 17 11 Middleton
Attack Severson Chris 11 11 Waunakee
Attack Elfman Cory 26 11 Regents
Midfielder Wills Austin 25 12 LaFollette
Midfielder Berkvam Jake 16 11 Regents
Midfielder Neuman Tim 7 11 Regents
Defense Brewster Tyler 20 11 Waunakee
Goalie Furhman Tate 15 11 Middleton

Honorable Mention
Position Last First # Grade School
Attack Urso Kal 22 12 Stoughton
Attack St. Michael Darian 10 10 Janesville
Midfielder Bradley Paul 4 12 Sauk
Midfielder Cynkar Ryan 44 12 Sun Prairie
Midfielder Fix Tyler 3 11 Waunakee
Midfielder Transue Zach 25 11 Stoughton
Midfielder Peterson Kiel 2 10 Middleton
Defense Tibbets David 35 10 Janesville
Goalie Kohlman John 19 10 Sauk
Goalie Erdahl Sanford 24 12 Stoughton
Goalie Hoeft David 10 12 Waunakee
Goalie Calder Ian 4 10 Regents

Additionally, coaches were able to recognize players from other teams they had observed who, in the opposing coaches' opinion, merited Special Recognition.

SPECIAL MENTION
Position Last First # Times Mentioned School
Attack Elfman Corey 26 2 Regents
Attack Hummel Nick 18 1 Middleton
Attack Olejnik Jack 22 1 Middleton
Attack Woock Jared 15 1 Waunakee
Goalie Baer Randy 4 1 LaFollette
Goalie Fowler Drake 6 1 Memorial
Goalie Hoeft David 10 1 Waunakee
Goalie Kohlman John 19 1 Sauk
Goalie Kulinski Eric 6 1 Sun Prairie
Goalie Urumoglu Nick 1 1 Verona
LSM Brewster Tyler 20 2 Waunakee
Midfielder Fix Tyler 3 1 Waunakee
Midfielder Neuman Tim 7 1 Regents
Midfielder Wright Nate 5 1 Verona
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PostSubject: Re: All Conference   Fri May 30, 2008 4:58 pm

any word on the Bay Conference all conference list?
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PostSubject: Re: All Conference   Fri May 30, 2008 5:50 pm

conference champs with 1 player in 1st team, what a joke.
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PostSubject: Re: All Conference   Fri May 30, 2008 5:54 pm

I agree with you lax11, also, how are Tate and Hoeft not on first team? Easily they're in the top three goalies with Urm.
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PostSubject: Re: All Conference   Fri May 30, 2008 5:58 pm

So in MALA they name every single player that plays? That is a HUGE list. I think for now they should just stick to all conference or just a first team.

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PostSubject: Re: All Conference   Fri May 30, 2008 6:03 pm

i don't get how this works, is special mention like the top players from that list. Because i see players in special mention from 1st team to honorable mention.
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PostSubject: Re: All Conference   Fri May 30, 2008 6:06 pm

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i don't get how this works, is special mention like the top players from that list. Because i see players in special mention from 1st team to honorable mention.

Special mention is if a coach from another team mentioned your name...it just shows that you were not only recognized by your own coach, but others to.
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PostSubject: Re: All Conference   Fri May 30, 2008 6:29 pm

lol, that means that most coaches listed mostly their own players. I think there is a flaw to this strategy of picking all coference
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PostSubject: Re: All Conference   Fri May 30, 2008 6:39 pm

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I agree with you lax11, also, how are Tate and Hoeft not on first team? Easily they're in the top three goalies with Urm.

In sports that contain a goalie, the goalie to the conference champs almost always goes first team. Its not like David is a mediocre goalie by any means anyway. Based off of his skill in net, he should have easily gone first team.
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PostSubject: Re: All Conference   Fri May 30, 2008 6:41 pm

David Hoeft is actually first team, there are four goalies on first team according to madlax.org. But 4 goalies is just dumb. After reading how they selected all conference that is just dumb as well. It sounds like to me that if a coach wants to they can just put one of their own "5" players on whatever level all conference they'd like? Correct me if I'm wrong please? IMO it should be 3 attack, 4 middies, fogo, lsm, 3 def, and a goalie for each team, then on Honorable mention MAYBE more 1 or 2 more for each category.

But oh well, congrats to all who made the list!
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PostSubject: Re: All Conference   Fri May 30, 2008 7:35 pm

Butters wrote:
I agree with you lax11, also, how are Tate and Hoeft not on first team? Easily they're in the top three goalies with Urm.


In my opinion, Urm is the third best out of those listed
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PostSubject: Re: All Conference   Fri May 30, 2008 7:36 pm

Lax11 wrote:
conference champs with 1 player in 1st team, what a joke.

Waunakee's coach made that decision
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PostSubject: Re: All Conference   Fri May 30, 2008 8:36 pm

Does anyone know anything about Waunakee's coach? They seem to be a very well coached team.
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PostSubject: Re: All Conference   Fri May 30, 2008 8:55 pm

Jack wrote:
Lax11 wrote:
conference champs with 1 player in 1st team, what a joke.

Waunakee's coach made that decision

Kudos to him for being truthful if that's how all conference truly was chosen. I haven't watched them play yet this year, but does Verona truly have 5 1st teamers?
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PostSubject: Re: All Conference   Fri May 30, 2008 9:54 pm

I disagree with that as well... At most they should have 1-2 1st teamers
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PostSubject: Re: All Conference   Fri May 30, 2008 10:10 pm

Jack wrote:
Butters wrote:
I agree with you lax11, also, how are Tate and Hoeft not on first team? Easily they're in the top three goalies with Urm.


In my opinion, Urm is the third best out of those listed
I could certainly agree with that. At least based on consistency.
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